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souwanapitch
Member #367
Posts: 97
Registered: 9/5/2010 6:30:22 PM
| posted 9/5/2010 6:30:22 PM 
Taunton League - Leon thanks for catching the last post - Yes whole teams are welcomed. We have two excellent maintained clay fields (300 ft fenced to all sides with concession stands) and we want to have a total of eight teams. I will establish the fees during the winter and keep everyone posted. Taunton sits mid point between the Boston and Fairhaven Leagues so I would expect a good cross over of talent so yes if there are whole teams or teams that need guys we will do whatever is needed to accomodate. |
souwanapitch
Member #367
Posts: 97
Registered: 9/5/2010 6:30:22 PM
| posted 9/5/2010 8:28:38 AM
Hey everyone:
We will be starting an open modified league in Taunton next year. The games will most likely be Saturday Mornings - one week a double header the next a single game. If interested in playing or pitching please concact me - Steven Mills at stcastemer@comcast.net - it will be ASA sanctioned. |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
playwright (BBG) -- great series guys, two yearsd in a row down to the wire ... you guys play the game well and play the game right, it was a pleasure. see you next year. |
suldog
Member #4
Posts: 97
Registered: 9/3/2010 7:52:25 AM
| posted 9/3/2010 7:52:25 AM
Congrats to the teams going to the finals. It was a fun night at the park last night. I had already finished my roast beef by the time Leon got there, so he was spared having to see the BBQ sauce dripping down my fingers. I offered to buy him a roast beef frappe when the ice cream truck came around, but he politely declined my generous offer. |
suldog
Member #4
Posts: 97
Registered: 9/3/2010 7:52:25 AM
| posted 9/2/2010 11:19:53 AM
I'm offended, Leon. If I didn't know you better, I'd think you were racist, dissing my Irish soul food. |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 9/2/2010 10:11:24 AM
girlfriend ... not wife ... although that doesn't make it any better ... i'll tell her about it before the game ... twice ... |
Token_BM
Member #221
Posts: 216
Registered: 9/2/2010 10:07:36 AM
| posted 9/2/2010 10:07:36 AM
Interesting you know the proper spelling. Is that the admire from afar technique. I see how wife looks at me. In that purse clutching but I really crave chocolate kind of way.
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dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 9/2/2010 9:54:23 AM
are you against food talk in general or would you prefer we limited the discussion to fried chicken and chitlins ? |
Token_BM
Member #221
Posts: 216
Registered: 9/2/2010 10:07:36 AM
| posted 9/2/2010 9:22:05 AM
I have never had a sandwich from Liberty Bell and never will after this shit. I'm pretty close to burning that damn place down. Talk about chicks, softball, money, chicks, strippers, hookers, chicks... I don't care but damn no more roast beef sandwich talk. |
cheeks159
Member #689
Posts: 41
Registered: 9/2/2010 7:27:38 AM
| posted 9/2/2010 7:27:38 AM
Wow, 2 great series! It doesn't get any better than this. Good luck tonight! |
suldog
Member #4
Posts: 97
Registered: 9/3/2010 7:52:25 AM
| posted 9/2/2010 7:26:09 AM
Yeah, I'll be there tonight. Grab a roast beef sandwich from Liberty Bell, a few brews from the packy, and enjoy a good game or two. |
jayatton44
Member #876
Posts: 58
Registered: 9/2/2010 2:16:57 AM
| posted 9/2/2010 2:16:57 AM
Can't wait for 2morrow few of my weekend teammates and players from the league are coming up to watch.....which looks like two classic games..........good luck to all |
JOEYV330
Member #352
Posts: 25
Registered: 9/1/2010 1:23:34 PM
| posted 9/1/2010 1:23:34 PM
Good job last night boys let's take it to another level thurs |
suldog
Member #4
Posts: 97
Registered: 9/3/2010 7:52:25 AM
| posted 9/1/2010 12:41:51 PM
Wow. Both semi-final series have been interesting. I'm torn on who to root for in the Sidewalk - Playwright II series. I mean, I played for Sidewalk at one point, and it's hard to root against your old team, but I have current good teammates from another league on Playwright. May the best team win! I'll probably be in the stands tonight. |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 9/1/2010 11:37:08 AM
BBG - nice game last night, way to take advantage as Dom tired ... Sorry hoads, shoulda used you. Also wanted to say that it was a pleasure seeing sammy up at the field and in good spirits ... and to let everyone know he will be back next year, along with his huge smile and bear hugs !!!!!! anyone who doesn't know sammy should introduce yourself to him when you see him ... he could be THE nicest and most respectful guy ever ... and he's not to shabby on the mound either. |
JOEYV330
Member #352
Posts: 25
Registered: 9/1/2010 1:23:34 PM
| posted 8/31/2010 1:13:51 PM
Playright A game tonight |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/31/2010 8:11:00 AM
beer garden (well, playwright) ... geat game ... glad i got to be a part of it. also glad its finally over :) |
comish
Member #2
Posts: 294
Registered: 8/30/2010 11:28:07 AM
| posted 8/30/2010 11:28:07 AM
FYI - my friend in the parks department tells me that the machine to roll/turnover the field is in the shop getting repaired. However, he did say that a crew will get to the field today to chalk the lines and fill the holes. I guess that's better than nothing at all. |
Pickup
Member #121
Posts: 82
Registered: 8/30/2010 9:16:57 AM
| posted 8/30/2010 9:16:57 AM
finally we can play some ball again |
cheeks159
Member #689
Posts: 41
Registered: 9/2/2010 7:27:38 AM
| posted 8/27/2010 3:00:52 PM
Conti...... Do you work? |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/27/2010 2:24:00 PM
awwww, is patty afraid he will lose too much weight from sweating too much !!! |
Pickup
Member #121
Posts: 82
Registered: 8/30/2010 9:16:57 AM
| posted 8/27/2010 2:13:34 PM
I decided that I cant play on monday. The reason being the sun is gonna be too strong, my guys are in danger of getting sunburned. |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/27/2010 2:10:55 PM
at least we agree on that Bake -- tossing players and giving out warnings will shut people up ... i have told the umps to just issue a warning then toss someone, who cares if it affects the game, that's the players fault !!! |
Bake
Member #73
Posts: 8
Registered: 8/27/2010 2:02:24 PM
| posted 8/27/2010 2:02:24 PM
The umps do a good enough job as is, people need to shut up. Earl may have lost it the other night but going forward the umps should have a much shorter leash in tossing people. That will stop the bitching. |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/27/2010 12:41:43 PM
and NOTHING is going to stop the bitching, we're a bunch of 20-40 year old men (well some are older ...) playing a sport with adrenaline pumping ... christ i bitch when i watch sports on TV !!!! |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/27/2010 12:37:27 PM
charlie -- obviously i knew you meant my team ... it was a joke ... and yes you are right i am back and will pay, not because i pay for everything, like you all think, but because my sponsor does. in fact i don't pay for anything for anyone on my team, as you well know. Also, just know that this is NOT coming up now for the first time, it was discussed before the playoffs, mark asked our opinions last night, and i said i wanted two umps. hell, i want two umps ALL playoffs long ... it makes it easier, as keith said, to make calls in the field ... and gives an option so if one ump misses a play, they can discuss and get calls right, which is what i think we all want |
Ccon15
Member #44
Posts: 151
Registered: 8/27/2010 11:50:05 AM
| posted 8/27/2010 11:50:05 AM
Well first off I dont think this would even be being discussed if your team wasnt beefing with Earl... And the team that I figured might not wanna pay was yours but I guess since your back around now you will cover it. I think you guys at the end of the day take this a little to serious... And im not singling anyone out when I say that but if you think I might be talking about you then I probably am. If we lose I go home and back to work the next day same as if I win no big deal to me,(do I wanna win of course). Point being the umps though my thought are this some teams are gonna bitch no matter what put a ump on every base people are still gonna bitch and the umps are still gonna miss a call here and there point is the only thing your 100% doing with two umps is charging the teams more money nothing else is gonna change.... So do what you want but I cant wait to see the first call the base ump misses and someone yells ask for help haha |
kazew
Member #921
Posts: 2
Registered: 8/27/2010 11:49:26 AM
| posted 8/27/2010 11:49:26 AM
I agree with Charlie in that 2 umpires isn't going to stop the bitchin' but it should help with the base calls. I feel we should use 2 umps all the time in the playoffs. Let's stop bitchin' and play softball |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/27/2010 11:28:32 AM
charlie, you don't think sidewalk will pay the extra $20 ... then you should just use one ump for your series then, problem solved :) |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/27/2010 11:24:04 AM
i like it, i am glad we are doing it, two umps is better than 1 in all respects. |
Ccon15
Member #44
Posts: 151
Registered: 8/27/2010 11:50:05 AM
| posted 8/27/2010 11:14:19 AM
I would like to bring up a new topic, the fact that I heard we are going to two umpires a game from here on out..... I think this is ridiculous. Why are we doing this? Our team hasnt done any bitching about umps all playoffs. Personally I dont think the umpiring or bitching is gonna get any better with two umps out there. Any other thoughts on this? I think this should be saved until the finals. Also we have a hard enough time getting our 20 a game up nevermind trying to get 40. Im sure its gonna be hard to get 40 out of another playoff team too hahah |
Yogi11
Member #708
Posts: 11
Registered: 8/27/2010 10:26:47 AM
| posted 8/27/2010 10:26:47 AM
No reason to have arguements...there's no way that field was going to be made playable, which sucks becasue it was such a nice night. Besides the huge puddle at 2B (that would have taken a lot of work to spread, rake, etc.) the field was hard a cement with huge ridges and drainage paths, and as mentioned no foul lines at all. Better to wait until next week, when it's supposed to be nice, to play games of this significance, between the 4 best teams in our league |
Pickup
Member #121
Posts: 82
Registered: 8/30/2010 9:16:57 AM
| posted 8/27/2010 10:00:04 AM
conti dont drag me in to arguements, as I recall I wanted to play |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/27/2010 8:06:13 AM
dear "bake" ... you obviously did not go onto the field, you probably just drove by it. mark tom yeo and i along with pat pickup actually inspected it ... and with second base having a serious muddy area, we felt not only was it slightly dangerous, but also would have an impact on games when next week is going to be perfect weather ... and just so you know my team was coming ... try telling dennis hajjar that it didn't suck to drive from methuen to southie only to turn around ... or luis colon that he shouldn't have left work early and get stuck in southie with no ride. i hope you were kidding "bakes" |
Token_BM
Member #221
Posts: 216
Registered: 9/2/2010 10:07:36 AM
| posted 8/27/2010 7:38:19 AM
Damn commish. How'd you know SennaHater was me?
On another note, I do recall a game maybe 3 years ago, where all the players were asked to bring buckets and yard tools to the field so we could move dirt piles and get the field playable.
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comish
Member #2
Posts: 294
Registered: 8/30/2010 11:28:07 AM
| posted 8/26/2010 8:29:57 PM
We all agreed that the field could have been played on but also agreed that it was in rough shape around second and third. The rain had also washed away the lines and we know how that would go in games that have a lot riding on them. Bottom of the seventh and a ball is hit down the line...was it fair or foul? Oh wait, there isn't a line to reference. Instead, we will give it the weekend to dry and then hopefully get the city crew there on Monday to line it.
On another note, not too many years ago the field would have been taken care of during the day. However, my job is outside of the city so I can't get there until after 5pm. By then it was too late to do anything but make a mess. I was really hoping that SennaHater and his boys would be up there working on it but that didn't happen. Instead, he will be a coward and throw remarks from afar while he hides behind a screen name. See you on Monday... |
Bake
Member #73
Posts: 8
Registered: 8/27/2010 2:02:24 PM
| posted 8/26/2010 7:47:41 PM
Whenever Conti can field a full team just let us know so we can continue the playoffs. |
JOEYV330
Member #352
Posts: 25
Registered: 9/1/2010 1:23:34 PM
| posted 8/26/2010 7:46:21 PM
This is comical. Love the entertainment value |
Bake
Member #73
Posts: 8
Registered: 8/27/2010 2:02:24 PM
| posted 8/26/2010 7:24:27 PM
Total joke tonight that games were not played. Did someone really check the field, because I was there at 6 PM and it looked fine to me. A little dirt at second and it would have been good to go. |
ocean
Member #930
Posts: 1
Registered: 8/26/2010 5:20:53 PM
| posted 8/26/2010 5:20:53 PM
10 mins and the feild would of been good to go..............This would of never happened years ago..............I smell a Rat, sounds like one of the teams must of been missing some players. |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/26/2010 4:25:14 PM
GAMES ARE CANCELLED PER DECISION OF MARK TOM YEO AND MYSELF. SECOND BASE IS ALL MUD. |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/26/2010 8:23:09 AM
guys, the field needs some substantial work, there are currently drainage channels at third and first, and second/ss is very very muddy ... as well as the batter's boxes. i heard from mark and the city won't touch the field if there is standing water, which there is. in its current shape it will be a bit of a mess to play ... can anyone get up there early today (like soon) and do some work on it to get the rest of the weater to evporate so the city will come drag it ? otherwise we're playing in potentially dangerous and certainly less than ideal conditions. |
Pickup
Member #121
Posts: 82
Registered: 8/30/2010 9:16:57 AM
| posted 8/26/2010 7:57:42 AM
looks like we can finally get this goin again |
SennaHater
Member #925
Posts: 2
Registered: 8/25/2010 8:22:25 PM
| posted 8/25/2010 8:22:25 PM
Ridiculous!! I love when Mark talks about himself in 3rd person. Total Bullshit. |
JohnJay
Member #928
Posts: 1
Registered: 8/25/2010 7:37:46 PM
| posted 8/25/2010 7:37:46 PM
Gentlemen :
This bickering and sniping must stop. It is unprofessional but alas, unavoidable. Who amongst us would not respond if attacked from afar ?
Why are you pointing fingers at Mark ? What is he guilty of except giving his time to the league for the last 22 years ? He is up there every night, writes interesting game summaries, takes rake in hand as needed and completes all the administrative functions necessary to field 21 teams.
And for this you throw stones at him ? Au contraire, mon ami. How many leagues are there in Boston with even half that number of teams ?
You accuse his of being the only voice but there is a Board of Directors who oversee his actions and they have had to take no action as he always does right by the league. They may be silent but they are not invisible. What changes are there you would like to make ? Changes need to be made off season, not mid stream.
I take pen in hand now to ease his burden and spare him the indignity of
having to respond to your vicious unwarranted slander.
I read your postings with great interest, Squat. Indeed they appear to be the ramblings of a man anxious to deflect criticism from his own actions even offering to accept the blame for something he did not do as some sort of martyr. If you are not guilty , then who ? You are without peer in the art of hitting and your teammates look to you as a leader and Captain. How did you influence them that night ? Praytell, who is the guilty party that escalated the controversy that night ? It certainly wasn’t Mark. Are you going to blame Earl? His timing was poor and he initiated the conflict and became so frustrated by your team’s response he thought it best to leave rather than be subject to the verbal onslaught he was enduring. Not his finest hour but he asked only to be paid for the work he had done and was about to do and you balked.
What doesn’t make sense about paying extra money for extra work ? It doesn’t make sense where you are from perhaps but here in the Heartland it is the way that things have always been done. Just because you didn’t know about it doesn’t change the league policy. Just because Mark supported Earl and spoke the truth doesn’t make him the snake and the liar you would have your readers believe. Your denials and attempts to shade the truth border on fabrication.
That has been the policy for the past 22 years since Mark took over. If you wanted to do something different why didn’t you say something before that night? You have been here four years, no ?
Indeed, if anyone is being ignorant here , it is not Mark. He is acting in the best interests of the league. Whose interests are you acting in by insulting a number of individuals who don‘t deserve your wrath? If you had listened to Mark that night you may have been able to finish the game.
The league enjoys a very good reputation thanks to Mark’s leadership and the commitment he made to each team and every person in the league.
If anyone should move on , I doubt it should be Mark. We are all quite happy with Mark as sole Commissioner of our “glorified sandlot game with wavering rules and BS umps” . Mark will be here in another 22 years. Where will you be ?
I am no Weslayan but I think you get my message.
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Rogers23
Member #927
Posts: 2
Registered: 8/25/2010 6:26:59 PM
| posted 8/25/2010 6:26:59 PM
lets settle this mark and dan thing on the field mark get your best nine and dan get your best nine and battle it out |
Rogers23
Member #927
Posts: 2
Registered: 8/25/2010 6:26:59 PM
| posted 8/25/2010 6:19:10 PM
i say we play in the rain just saying |
Token_BM
Member #221
Posts: 216
Registered: 9/2/2010 10:07:36 AM
| posted 8/25/2010 4:12:31 PM
Both of you need to let it go. Damn!!! |
comish
Member #2
Posts: 294
Registered: 8/30/2010 11:28:07 AM
| posted 8/25/2010 2:57:36 PM
Wow, 4 years...that almost makes you a local. From what I'm hearing, some of the "rooted locals" at the BAC are not warming up to your ways. Just sayin!
I agree with you about not accepting things when they don't make sense. You asked me and I told you that the umpires are paid $2 per extra inning they work. That's the fact. Your thought process and actions (failing to pay) after that is on you and you alone.
As for my writing and opinions on the matter, that's up for open debate. There were quite a few of us who witnessed the events that night and we ALL know the real story.
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Member #656
Posts: 8
Registered: 8/25/2010 1:02:58 PM
| posted 8/25/2010 1:02:58 PM
Dan B. Your diatribe was spoken/written like a true Wesleyan Man |
comish
Member #2
Posts: 294
Registered: 8/30/2010 11:28:07 AM
| posted 8/25/2010 9:28:14 AM
Tonight's (8/25) games are rained out - we'll try again tomorrow.
Thursday (8/26) schedule:
Shennanigans vs Playwright(BBG) continuation game @ 630pm
Playwright(BBG) vs Shennanigans
Playwright II vs Sidewalk Cafe @ 830pm
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Pickup
Member #121
Posts: 82
Registered: 8/30/2010 9:16:57 AM
| posted 8/25/2010 8:33:56 AM
the way the field looks right we might not be able to play all week |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/25/2010 8:25:59 AM
keith nice to hear from someone else who played and nice to hear from you on this forum ... sorry i missed it man, been looking forward to this series all year !! looks like no game again today (and likely tomorrow because its POURING and has been for hours). |
kazew
Member #921
Posts: 2
Registered: 8/27/2010 11:49:26 AM
| posted 8/24/2010 6:35:50 PM
I found it disappointing that Earl left as there are two teams playing hard. We deserve better than the umpire walking away. I understand he was given a hard time but he is in control of it. If it's out of line or too much throw that player out. The bitching was no worse than usual in my eyes but I don't really pay attention. I also want to mention the calls go both ways good and bad. As players lets play and let the umpires do there job. |
SennaHater
Member #925
Posts: 2
Registered: 8/25/2010 8:22:25 PM
| posted 8/24/2010 6:11:42 PM
Senna and Brown.... What a bunch of babies. Whaa whaa whaa! 2 grown men, yeah right! Shut up and play ball. The league is tired of it. |
Isquat2catch
Member #520
Posts: 46
Registered: 8/24/2010 5:25:11 PM
| posted 8/24/2010 5:25:11 PM
resting an argument on "that's the way it's always been" is in fact ignorance at it's greatest. I have lived here for 4 years Mark, and for the most part seem to fit in perfectly even with the most rooted local families.... what I don't do is just accept things because that's what someone says, I ask when they don't make sense. By your logic a lot of far more serious issues would never have been addressed and eventually righted... not that this compares to softball, but as a theoretical comparison I find it relevant. Also, being so adverse to change that you have reactions like this to anyone questioning you and or the league is WAY over the top. The greatest sign of intelligence, IMO, is open mindedness; knowing you don't know anything; listening to every opinion and deciding on the best resolution after gathering that information.
I'm all set with this conversation/argument I think you've lost sight of what the true issue here was and what eventual escalated to a situation we all regret. If you need a scape goat or want to slander me by all means; to me life is not a popularity contest, right and wrong is not measured by popular vote... I will gladly stand and listen to all critics and their opinions... but unfortunately the facts have clearly been skewed and absolutely misconveyed by you and your buddy.
I echo the statement of others earlier, the best teams have made it and there is some good ball left to be played... let's finish it up and figure it out after.
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dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/24/2010 2:07:38 PM
your welcome patrick |
Pickup
Member #121
Posts: 82
Registered: 8/30/2010 9:16:57 AM
| posted 8/24/2010 2:06:32 PM
thanks david |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/24/2010 1:08:29 PM
games are CANCELLED ... just spoke with Mark, he will NOT be able to update the site until after 4. He will be in touch with Beer Garden and Umpire, i am calling Pickup now. |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/24/2010 11:16:22 AM
its raining sideways now. |
Token_BM
Member #221
Posts: 216
Registered: 9/2/2010 10:07:36 AM
| posted 8/24/2010 10:41:20 AM
Considering the way that field drains I can't imagine how there would be games tonight, unless it suddenly gets 90 and sunny in the next 10 minutes. |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/24/2010 10:08:29 AM
i went by the field around 9 a.m., and it was under water at third, second and first, as well as the mound and batters' boxes ... it was also very very wet ... like mud throughout (you could see how soft it is). it is currently drizzling and they are calling for more rain starting at noon and then again from 4-6 or 7. |
Pickup
Member #121
Posts: 82
Registered: 8/30/2010 9:16:57 AM
| posted 8/24/2010 10:04:41 AM
whats it looking like for tonights games? |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/24/2010 9:30:27 AM
also Mark, nice write-up. I would like to say that you have done a great job with that this year, something that was missing last year (until the playoffs obviously). I think it adds something special to this league to be able to not be at the park, or even be away from boston, and still get a run down of how a game went. so again, thanks for that, it made missing the games last week a little easier to swallow (other than the loss) |
dconti
Member #437
Posts: 390
Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/24/2010 8:52:53 AM
as to the umpires, i don't mind the $2 and neither does my team (honestly). I will say that (1) we paid an extra $2 to chuck last year in our semis game; (2) we have NEVER refused to pay an umpire a fee, even after a tough loss; BUT (3) my guys did not know or remember this rule as i take care of ump fees through our sponsor and sadly, i was not there. so let's just get back to playing games because something no one is discussing is that MARK DION (WHO THE UMPIRE INSTRUCTED WAS THE ONLY PERSON HE WOULD SPEAK TO) WENT OUT TO THE UMPIRE WITH $22 AND OFFERED IT TO HIM AND SAID "LET'S FINISH THE GAME". THE UMPIRE SAID HE WOULD BE GOING HOME BUT TO PAY HIM ANYWAY, AND IT WAS ONLY AT THIS POINT MY TEAM REFUSED TO PAY. SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS GETTING LOST HERE IS THAT SHENANNIGANS PAID MARK SENNA IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE UMPIRE LEFT THE FIELD BECAUSE IT WAS NOT ABOUT THE $2 IS WAS ABOUT GETTING THE RULE RIGHT AND QUESTIONING WHY WE HAD TO PAY MID-GAME, NOT AFTER THE GAME. WE CERTAINLY HAVE A RIGHT TO QUESTION THE COMMISSIONER ABOUT THE RULE, WHICH WE DID. regardless, it was a heated moment of a tense game, things get said, things get done that they may regret later or might not have done had it not been in the heat of the battle (something most of the people discussing this issue know very well). so again, let's get back to playing ball, and if you want to discuss this issue, let's discuss it objectively. p.s. i like the idea of adding the umpire fees to the league dues !!!!! |
comish
Member #2
Posts: 294
Registered: 8/30/2010 11:28:07 AM
| posted 8/24/2010 7:52:10 AM
Clarification...teams DO NOT pay 750 to play in the M Street League. If that was the case then the umpires fees would be more than covered. Teams pay 450 which mainly covers the light cost and the game balls.
Maybe it is time we collect the umpire fees upfront to avoid putting the umpire in an uncomfortable situation of having to collect money from a team that just suffered a tough loss.
The thing that gets me though is that as TruBlu stated, this has been in place in the M Street League for as long as I have been associated with the league (1988). That means for 22 years I haven't seen or heard of anyone complaining about paying the umpire extra money to work extra innings until last week. That's kind of pathetic if you think about it.
Here you have a guy (DB) who hasn't lived in South Boston for very long and he is going to question the long standing commissioner and the veteran umpire about the practice of collecting the $2 fee?? That's just plain old ignorance to me!
Though I will make sure I update the "magical" South Boston rule book to avoid this in the future. |
TruBlu
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| posted 8/24/2010 12:27:23 AM
The policies & procedures we follow today were instituted back in the 1950's when softball became popular.Back then an average score was 5-4 ( wooden bats remember ) and umpires got $2 a game so an extra inning was only a quarter. Just as the game evolved to higher scoring games so did the rules and a " slaughter rule " aka " mercy rule " was adopted. The theory behind not giving money back was simply that the game was no fun for anybody and the umpire was willing to stay and finish the game but the losing team wanted to basically surrender and pursue other interests for the rest of the night.
Also in an era when 9 runs was an average output for the game , a slaughter game such as 18 -6 represented 24 runs and seven innings worth of runs and a lot of umpiring so he was considered to have done his job. That is still true today and the policy of extra pay for extra innings has a long established history. Maybe it's time to revisit that policy but last week the agreement was in place. Not all umpires take it or ask for it but the agreement does exist between the umpire association and the various leagues. I think players may be resistant to it as they have to pay for lights , more expensive equipment, and field fees which they didn't have to in the past.
To pay extra for extra innings may seem like piling on or squeezing more out of the teams but the ump is entitled to it and unfortunately he makes an easy target and people are used to complaining about him anyway so this is just one more thing. |
Leo Greeley
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| posted 8/23/2010 11:37:36 PM
I left the other night before all this stuff started about getting extra money for extra innings. I think the umpires should get extra money for extra innings. But people made a good point about do they give money back for a five inning game. Also just a, thought that might have solved this problem. In the fire league it's five hundred dollars for league fees. That pays lights, umpire fees, balls and we have a party at the end of the year. We only have 13 teams. Maybe the league should think about paying the umpires also seems like the money should not be a problem when we have 21 teams and the league fees are 750 a team. |
dconti
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| posted 8/23/2010 1:20:38 PM
p.s. chuck i still love you and have no problem with the game you called, but for this dispute, which i would like to see if we can all agree on, instead of bickering ... that's what this forum is for, and i think this is an important rule that needs addressing, cause we all know the slide at home plate rule, but a runner interference on a fielding play is much more rare. |
dconti
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| posted 8/23/2010 1:10:36 PM
* succeeding runner should be succeeding play. |
dconti
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| posted 8/23/2010 1:10:02 PM
i am not going to speak to the events of the other night as i was not there, so i do not have first hand information. i would like to comment, however, on the runner interference rule that the commissioner mentions in the front page article, as I do not believe it is correct and I want to avoid disputes in the future, and all players and umpires should know the rule. if you look up ASA rules, a runner interfering with a succeeding play after being called out is guilty of interference if he does not try and avoid the fielder and interferes with a succeeding runner. It is the runners obligation to get out of the way, and has no "right to the basepath". there are a couple of rules interpretation on this found at (http://www.eteamz.com/fastpitch/boards/softballumpire/message.cfm?id=2235724) and (http://en.allexperts.com/q/Softball-2562/baserunner-interference.htm). since we won the series, its a moot point, but our umpires should know that a runner has no right to the basepath and MUST MAKE AN EFFORT TO GET OUT OF THE WAY, if he does not he is guilty of interference regardless of intent. in the situation at hand, the runner failed to slide or get out of the way of an attempted double-play, thereby causing the fielder to have to try and avoid him. under this interpretation i believe the incorrect call was made. in any event, looking forward to getting back to the ballfield and playing some more games !!!! |
sbjmc
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| posted 8/23/2010 10:52:15 AM
It has been great playoffs besides that one instant,get back to playing good ball,the four best teams have proven they are right were they belong.lol |
Isquattopoo
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| posted 8/22/2010 8:20:28 PM
Why is it always the same people complaining ? It''s always the same complaint.
What starts out as a real concern becomes whining when the same people say the same things all the time. Why don't you just take your ball and go home ? Otherwise offer solutions instead of complaints. |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/22/2010 8:34:21 AM
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chuckahf
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| posted 8/21/2010 10:30:09 PM
To I squat to catch -Your diva behavior has been tolerated thus far but not appreciated by any of our umpires-perhaps tolerated because you are a premier player. However, I myself played college ball ,semi-pro ball and 30 years of high level softball and never berated umpires as you do.To call us BS umpires shows your lack of respect and complete lack of persective. We are very good umpires and all of us have been successful for over 20 years on these diamonds. Everyone in this league knows you can play the game-just as importantly every one in this league wishes you would let your play speak for itself. |
Back2back
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| posted 8/21/2010 12:05:02 PM
For the bullshit they put up with $40 is definitely not too much, especially with 20 or so guys out there on the field. Adult softball is the worst, especially when these guys have no association really backing them up, and as we saw earlier in the season if they piss the wrong person off they'll be threatened with having their games cut.
With all that said under NO circumstances should an umpire be allowed to ask for "overtime" this isn't the union, you're essentially an exempt employee, you do the job til its done. If it rains after 1 inning, or even after 1 pitch they get a full fee, and they should they came out to the field, it isn't their fault extraordinary circumstances prevented the job from being done in the time frame it was slotted, same goes for extra innings. It's grossly unprofessional. BTW why is there a board of directors in this league when its clear only one vote matters? |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/21/2010 8:59:48 AM
I have heard of xtra money for innings before but not for a long time, Token makes good point about do umps give us money back for mercy games, what time was this when it all happened, they also get 40 bucks to ump which i think is it alot, if we are looking for umps next season i would quit in a heart beat, i quit one of my leagues and umped about 30 games made some good money, hopefully this blows over finish up the game and get this playoffs over with. sounds like some good games so far, good luck to all four teams |
Isquat2catch
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| posted 8/21/2010 5:47:56 AM
I played 3 sports thanks :)
forfeit LOL you guys make stuff up as you go
we give you trouble, no I just think you don't like us or being called out when you are wrong
I'm done with the man drama... see you at the field tuesday |
comish
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| posted 8/20/2010 5:30:00 PM
lovestosquat aka Dan Brown, sounds to me that you put yourself on an island and are now trying to save face. Your actions last night were embarrassing and your team had to be dragged through it because of YOU.
Furthermore, I'm told by the chief umpire that there is a possibility that Shennanigan's may have to forfeit the game...now that would really suck wouldn't it?
For the record, I have played MANY, MANY, MANY more competitive games than you have....you one sport prima donna!
Lastly, as long as I'm here ASA will not be umpiring any M Street games. There are 21 teams in this league that I deal with and yours is the only one that gives me problems every year. For that, you and your buddies can take your "all-star" talents to the much more respected Cambridge league and we will all be better off. Good riddens!
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Isquat2catch
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| posted 8/20/2010 12:48:49 PM
Mark that is the funniest version of the unfortunate situation that took place last night....
I would tend to think the actual participants of the game would disagree with you and your buddy!
With all due respect I have played 100 times more games than you and said friend, in a lot more respected leagues, tournaments and venues... this is the FIRST time I have every in all my years of softball and baseball heard of extra money for extra innings.
This league chooses to SKIMP on umps due to a number of reasons some of which you were nice enough to explain to me last night. Unfortunately you then ran back to do nothing but bash Shenanigans . Also another point you missed was we did pay, we paid you because Earl left after a lengthy display!
What also is missed is that before the game started during ground rules... which mind you he didn't give... he starts the conversation with I don't wanna hear shit from any of you, I've done 3 games total of 10 runs we in we out! YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!
He then proceeds to blow a blatant call and not know the rule in the first inning... but screams and yells at me like it's my fault he's obv ignorant??? Needless to say he had a short fuse from there on out... We all have personal lives and deal with whatever issues we each might be carrying onto the field.. I get it... but he was out of line on numerous occasions, if I was to act like that as a player I would be thrown out. I told you what I truly believe to be the route cause of his meltdown, ending with "I'm tired I wanna get out of here give me my MFing money"
LOL and this is the guy you are sticking up for, maybe you should have video taped that and sent it to the head ump???
It was never the money, it was how he went about asking for it... he would not talk to myself as captain or the interim coach Cav he instead made a big deal to call out Mark Dion... I asked you simply because I have never heard of that before, I would pay Earl double to leave and never come back personally.
Lastly, as commissioner and present throughout this whole game and unfortunate ending I am truly surprised you have this perspective on the events? He BLEW his top on numerous occasions and to only call to attention Shenanigan's only highlights your true bias.
Everyone has an opinion and is entitled obviously. Just some are more impartial and informed. You and your friend certainly took advantage of your forum to sing it to the masses... sadly I don't think anyone listens anymore.
I hear lots of talk about the honor of the league, the pride is there and it shows in so many positive ways. Unfortunately I think your bias has blinded you in this case. You want to make this league better, make it ASA, decide once and for all on bat rules, and get the parks dept to fix up the field a bit... otherwise we are all arguing about a glorified sandlot game with wavering rules and BS umps.
IMO :)
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Token_BM
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| posted 8/20/2010 12:31:06 PM
I don't work hourly so I have no idea. I get paid the same whether I work 12 hours or 5 hours. It's about working until the job is done. However, here's the counter argument that I've heard in my own discussion, since in any league or tournament I've ever played in this is the first I've heard of paying extra for extra innings. Does the Ump get less money for mercy rule? If he gives money back then fine. |
Back2back
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| posted 8/20/2010 12:13:13 PM
I know that Rip-it spent the last couple years trying to get out in front of aluminum technology because they expected composites to be banned, and while they're back to making composites, I think they've got some good bats that could be used in the league. |
Pickup
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| posted 8/20/2010 8:29:19 AM
ump works overtime he should get paid for it. |
suldog
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| posted 8/20/2010 7:39:02 AM
What's up with all-stars, home run contest, etc.? |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/19/2010 12:09:00 PM
Make that Metal Alloy" |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/19/2010 12:08:37 PM
Pickup I'm waiting for Mark to get back to me on whether it's legal or not. Otherwise it really limits the selection. I have found a few bats made by Anderson. They use a metal allow instead of composite. |
Ccon15
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| posted 8/19/2010 11:40:38 AM
Mark a quick correction on the article it was josh newly with those hits lastnite not josh seeley |
suldog
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| posted 8/19/2010 10:37:13 AM
Man, I'm sorry I've been under the weather and not make it up to the park for some of these games. Sounds like there have been some beauties! Is All-Star, etc., still on for Friday? I'm definitely there, if so? Who else? Mark - If I can be of any assistance on Friday evening, drop me a line. |
Leo Greeley
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| posted 8/19/2010 10:20:48 AM
Last night we got to watch to great games. All teams played at the to of their game. Really looking forward to watching them again tonight. |
mattyfc
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| posted 8/19/2010 10:14:39 AM
broderick and stalcup put on a show last night.....sick game |
chuckahf
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| posted 8/18/2010 9:59:31 PM
Jimmie you pitched great this year -especially in big games. Your Junction teammates did themselves proud in support of you! Much continued success to your team next year! |
sbjmc
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| posted 8/18/2010 10:43:54 AM
Shans series your team played was great,your team took advantage of every mistake I made.Dom great pitching,the best part of this series was lack of arguments and fights played with true sportmanship and good ball. SIGNING OFF TILL NEXT YEAR,LOL. |
cheeks159
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| posted 8/18/2010 9:30:04 AM
Bob, you guys are tough. Great series! McNiff, way to pitch. You kept us off balance 2 out of 3 games, not easy to do. Great season! |
bacarlson21
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| posted 8/18/2010 9:23:17 AM
Conti you definitely missed a good one. That was a fun series. Good luck the rest of the way. I'll see you guys up at the field. |
dconti
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| posted 8/18/2010 8:40:41 AM
Mcniff / I-man / Bob and the rest of the junction -- well played sounds like I missed a good one. Definitely gave us a run guys. Congrats and see you next year !! Looking forward to it. |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/17/2010 9:42:48 PM
who won.......also whats the deal for friday |
Member #656
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| posted 8/17/2010 1:46:10 PM
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Pickup
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| posted 8/17/2010 1:33:17 PM
leon the white steel soft is a good bat, but it has a composite handle so idk if we can use it |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/17/2010 11:18:17 AM
Anybody have any single wall non composite bat suggestions? I know of the Demarini Steel (which I like) and the Easton SV12 (I've never used). |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/17/2010 10:59:12 AM
We need some drama. That will solve the whole problem. |
comish
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| posted 8/16/2010 1:04:36 PM
Chirp-chirp, it's very quiet on here...
Did that video leave that much of an impact? |
comish
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| posted 8/13/2010 12:52:23 AM
This video will make you sick to your stomach...the pitcher doesn't have a chance in hell to protect herself.
Pitcher hit in face |
comish
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| posted 8/13/2010 12:04:16 AM
Wow, Hoads thanks for posting this. It's aweful, tragic, and so unecessary. This is more proof that rule changes need to be made for the safety of all of our players.
The M Street Softball League will be banning ALL composite bats starting this September (Fall League). Hopefully, we can get through the playoffs without any further injuries.
I say further because Chris Gingle of the Masterbatters took a ball off the face at shortstop and broke his nose last night.
Ironically, his brother Vinny told me that the doctor who was treating him said they had just treated a pitcher who had lost his eye from getting hit by a line drive.
Enough is enough!! |
hoads
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| posted 8/12/2010 9:47:19 PM
I normally don't post on these sites but after hearing about this incident I felt it was important on many levels. I was not there for this injury but I heard about it from multiple people who were there. They described it as the most horrific thing they have ever seen. Apparently during a game in the Webster Mens Softball League a pitcher (named Dale) took a line drive square in the face. There happen to be a nurse in the crowd who immedietly jumped into action and help control the situation until EMS arrived. From what I was told this pitchers eye was hanging out of the socket. Not sure how exxageratted that is but like I said multiple people have confirmed. We learned tonight that he lost his eye and will need a prosthetic. Looking past this unfortunate accident, the discussion arose re the bat. I was told that the umpire had to confiscate the bat and ball used. It appears the bat and ball will be tested to determine if any tampering occured. If so, the police will be notified and this could be considered assualt. I am not sure if there is any precedence with this kind of incident. I heard something about fines in the past up to 100,000 dollars?? If anyone else knows anything about this please feel free to correct me. I am just going off what I have heard. I just thought this story put things into perspective to me. Not sure where liability falls but scary none the less. |
dconti
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| posted 8/12/2010 9:05:05 AM
junction nice game last night, way to take advantage ... outplayed us in every aspect. see you monday. |
comish
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| posted 8/12/2010 8:57:00 AM
Fall League - the Bulldogs have entered a team. I think Dorset and Murphy's Law are both in too. I also have interest from three outside teams so space is getting very limited. |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/11/2010 11:39:21 AM
Who is putting a team in fall league? |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/10/2010 1:41:48 PM
congrats BAJ good season bunch of great guys was pulling for you. good luck great playoffs matchups |
souwanapitch
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| posted 8/8/2010 7:06:33 PM
Hey Leon its Steve - I left you a message - the glove you are holding is my nephews Christian. If there is anyway to get it for the 8:15 Monday game that would be great. Thanks |
comish
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| posted 8/7/2010 4:08:27 PM
Hey guys,
The playoff schedule has been updated - basically, the games that were rained out on Thursday will be played on Monday. The QF games that were originally scheduled for Monday have been moved to Friday. The All-Star game has been moved to Friday, Aug 20...everything else is the same. |
suldog
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| posted 8/6/2010 2:39:01 PM
Hey, Conti, let me show you my...
Oh, never mind. |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/6/2010 2:30:19 PM
:(
no love oh well will be coming down conti for one of ur games more likely the late one this week.
Good luck all
go below average joe |
dconti
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| posted 8/6/2010 11:44:56 AM
homos. |
Pickup
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| posted 8/6/2010 11:43:47 AM
cheeks i could make a comeback to that last comment, but then we would just be liek jay atton and sully. cant have that |
cheeks159
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| posted 8/6/2010 10:14:47 AM
Don't worry Conti, he came cheap. We paid him in donuts. |
Pickup
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| posted 8/6/2010 9:58:43 AM
funny thinkg is Dave they are paying me to play haha |
dconti
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| posted 8/6/2010 8:20:20 AM
pickup -- talked to mark last night, looks like the games wil be monday (3 of them) with the two play in games and then one of the pre-set matchups ... i would imagine your since you were already scheduled to play that night ... although your time will be different. i am sure mark will update the site quickly, always does. good luck this weekend ... and please don't let my guys get hurt ... otherwise you gotta pay the remainder of their contracts ;) |
Pickup
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| posted 8/6/2010 6:43:16 AM
Mark, with Rain out how is next week impacted |
joeyv33
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| posted 8/6/2010 6:37:13 AM
Ok thnks |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/6/2010 12:18:43 AM
Joey next Friday for all star game |
joeyv33
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| posted 8/5/2010 7:21:27 PM
so is there an allstar game or no so our team knows what goin on |
17Dunny
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| posted 8/5/2010 6:17:34 PM
sorry my last short story posted 1/2 so i felt urge to repost the full 7 page version........As For Mr. Conti we should take a league wide poll and see who "hides behind their screename" more so than any other member of the league? I guarantee in fact I would be willing to bet 1 Dave Conti would win in a landslide! Book Itt! Im very accessible trust me I have never hid from any 1 in my life and I damn sure aint gonna start hiding now! CMC is right where I come from and how I was brought up being a "punk" is possibly the worst thing you can be in the world other than a child molester or an informant, but in other neighberhoods and areas its just another word. Ive learned that over the last 5 years, because the definition of a punk to someone that was born and raised in the projects of South Boston it is the lowest of the low a heartless,spineless, coward , maggott weasel who has no sack, no morals, no pride, and no fight in them!! Now if you know me no need to explain myself, and if you dont know me try calling me a "punk"! Conti, in fact I remember a few years back you tried some stuff that the guy u give FREE TWISTED TEA bags too (cheeks) hahaha.......is trying and it backfired on you you took it to a whole new personal level and dont know if you nheard through the grapevine,asked around or just smartened up but when all was said and done you showed your true colors (sans the fake screename killler mentality) so lets not go there again because this is a public forum and when people get offended or angry or called out amongst 100s of strangers they tend to do 1 of 2 things they PUNK some 1 off or they get PUNKED off, I know where I stand in them situations, same place i been standing in these type situations since I was 14..........the ? is do you??? So lets stop the madness and for the record your honor My Name is Michael Donovan i play 3rd for Cranberry after 4-5 years on sidewalk.....Thats me Sans the Screename |
17Dunny
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| posted 8/5/2010 5:49:06 PM
oooooooooooooooo baby, here we go Cheeks i wasnt out of line actually, I was simply stating facts and airing out some issues i along with many, many others have with the league right now. upon reading this you saw an easy target (so u thought) and figured you would chime in on ur tired ass beer joke for a laugh @ my expense.....when A) i DONT EVEN KNOW WHO YOU ARE and STILL DONT nor do I care too. So when I now try to make you the Butt (yeah pun intended sick right? )of a joke and you try the old "you got anger issues man" why because i am putting my feelings toward a legitimate problem in the league out there for all to see while ......you play the sidelines and try to jump in and be the site heckler, well save the jokes that take place in THE FORUM for Jim Rome because u tried and failed, so like Mr. Rome ur ass or should I say CHEEKS are burning because I just scolded you!!! So from here on out dont play with FIRE son, you tried you failed and Now you just got burnt!!
Change your screename to preparation H!! ROFL! |
17Dunny
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| posted 8/5/2010 5:27:18 PM
oooooooooooooooo baby, here we go Cheeks i wasnt out of line actually, I was simply stating facts and airing out some issues i along with many, many others have with the league right now. upon reading this you saw an easy target (so u thought) and figured you would chime in on ur tired ass beer joke for a laugh @ my expense.....when A) i DONT EVEN KNOW WHO YOU ARE and STILL DONT nor do I care too. So when I n ow try to make you the Butt (yeah |
dconti
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| posted 8/5/2010 12:42:09 PM
and to be honest with you "CMC" ... i could care less what "others" think or how they take it ... if dunny takes it any way than how i meant it (which was a play on his own words) then he knows he can come talk to me about it and not hide behind an anonymous ID on a message board. and once he does it will get straightened out just like a couple years ago ... its only a MESSAGE BOARD for chrissakes. |
dconti
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| posted 8/5/2010 12:31:42 PM
dude, did you read what dunny wrote ... or just my post ... he specifically mentioned that he hopes i didn't think he was being a punk ... it was a joke bro, relax |
suldog
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| posted 8/5/2010 12:24:19 PM
I'm sure Conti meant no disrespect, he was just having some fun. I'm sure he meant "punk" in the sense of someone who gets all up in the face of authority, not some other less-desirable meaning you might have in mind.
That IS what you're talking about, right? |
CMC79
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| posted 8/5/2010 12:19:50 PM
"dunny -- i don't think you are being a punk anymore than you usually are kid, no worries."
dconti, do you realize that your mouth gets you in trouble? Are you trying to be funny here? If so, then your sense of humor is warped and I'm sure it's going to be taken the wrong way by Dunny and many others.
Then again you can always plead ignorance... |
dconti
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| posted 8/5/2010 9:16:30 AM
and i just hope that everyone heeds your advice, as i know its not directed at me ... but at EVERYONE ... and that people get back to playing ball !!!! |
dconti
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| posted 8/5/2010 9:14:18 AM
dunny -- i don't think you are being a punk anymore than you usually are kid, no worries. |
Yogi11
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| posted 8/5/2010 8:17:43 AM
We struggled through our initiation to the "A' division. Many ups and downs, but the defense isn't there yet. I give a big thanks to Joey for sticking with us, even when we didn't give him a ton of help, and pitching hurt all year. Good luck to everyone the rest of the way, and a big thanks to Mark as well, great job organizing everything, and great job with the site. |
Pickup
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| posted 8/5/2010 7:53:35 AM
wow how about shamrock losing? |
cheeks159
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| posted 8/5/2010 7:41:55 AM
First of all get your info right. I made one comment about Conti paying in beer, not 2 1/2 weeks worth. 2nd of all, if you want to get personal with me because I said I fell asleep during the longest post in the history of this forum, you have anger issues that go far beyond softball, bud. Sorry if you took something the wrong way, but you're way out of line. |
17Dunny
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| posted 8/4/2010 9:11:38 PM
Dear Cheeks,
1st of all your name is "CHEEKS" and as if that aint bad enough you been dick riding the whole "conti pays in beer" joke for about 2 1/2 weeks and unlike you, whoever you are I dont live on this site believe it or not I have a life besides THE FORUM!! and you have 35 posts and Im assuming most are feeble attempts to hop in on other peoples 3 week old jokes and try to keep them going for a laugh or maybe even to make friends. Well I dont roll like that partner so i wrote 1 extremely long 1 to put my seasons worth of madness in to 1 post, and if you fell asleep you prob dont have a pulse or better yet maybe you felt exposed by my truth telling. So have conti T bagg a Amstel light and then I bet you will wakeup and we will prob find out how and why your called CHEEKS!!! Find some new material your jokes are all tattered & worn out CHEEKS so just change your name. Then Ill write you some material and you can be the artist formerly known as CHEEKS.....kinda gotta ring 2 it |
17Dunny
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| posted 8/4/2010 8:53:08 PM
when i say "the majority of league participants" I mean they are the "next guy" as in rule abiding good guys who just come down to play some ball and have some MAN time away from the wife and kids.
just wanted to clarify that |
17Dunny
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| posted 8/4/2010 8:48:54 PM
yeah believe me (for those who dont know me) i am not trying to bitch bout gettin knocked out! I dont/won't cry over spilled milk.....Im just saying a lot of if not ALL of the league Leaders in crybaby complaints are just as guilty of "suspect" or illegal activity if NOT EVEN MORE SO THAN THE NEXT GUY (i.e. the majority of league participants) and to each his own I just feel personally that if your team is bending or breaking the rules your best bet would to be to shut your mouth and play ball! We are grown men looking to get outta the house for a lil bit and have a few laughs and hopefully in the process win a few ball games if u wanna b a dbagg and complain or cry thats your perogative,but dont be the pot while calling out the kettle my friends. And thank you for co signing my sh!t Leon and again congrats Junction and to Mcniff and Conti not being a punk just calling it as I see it plain and simple nothing more nothing less. |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/4/2010 5:01:43 PM
sully doesn't have a cell phone would have to mail the lol and :) faces. or use a stone, pic and chisel like he did when he was a kid |
cheeks159
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| posted 8/4/2010 4:46:07 PM
Guys, try texting each other. That way you can throw in your LOL and smiley faces back at each other : ) LOL. |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/4/2010 4:07:44 PM
ya picking up sully will be good for 10 percent of your drinks good aol senior citzens |
suldog
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| posted 8/4/2010 3:59:48 PM
In other words, screw Jay being a free agent, I'm twice as good as he is LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. |
suldog
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| posted 8/4/2010 3:48:31 PM
Anyway, Bubba, I could bring up the fact that I reached base twice as often as you did last night, and with one less AB. |
suldog
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| posted 8/4/2010 3:46:05 PM
Hey, Jay, at my age you never know when your last hit is going to be YOUR LAST HIT. So lay off and let me keep remembering it the way I want to, that it was going to mutilate the 3B hand if he tried to catch it. |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/4/2010 3:28:27 PM
pretty sure ak and stingers r playing at 6:30
and sully no more post only if you going to hit somebody with a bat
and speaking of juice bats how come nobody said anything about sullys bomb over the 3rd basemans head last night that landed...... in front of the left fielder |
suldog
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| posted 8/4/2010 3:21:33 PM
Yeah, you're right. I'll shut up now. |
Pickup
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| posted 8/4/2010 3:19:45 PM
only 1 game tonight? |
dconti
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| posted 8/4/2010 3:10:17 PM
now this is just creepy ... lol ... |
suldog
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| posted 8/4/2010 3:05:59 PM
Hey, Conti, let me show you my bat. It hasn't been juiced, either :-) |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/4/2010 3:02:02 PM
kidding me more like a I <1 dollar i meant>
conti is just jealous |
dconti
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| posted 8/4/2010 3:00:02 PM
homos. |
suldog
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| posted 8/4/2010 2:51:38 PM
C-Note? You bastard! You said it was 2 G's! |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/4/2010 2:47:31 PM
hey sully i can get one at the holiday in if ur intrested lol
thanks sully ill give u the cnote i promised |
suldog
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| posted 8/4/2010 2:45:19 PM
Let's see if I can build up Big Jay's free agent appeal even more. I've known him, and been a teammate of his, on many different teams, since I first met him in this league back in 1999. Not only is he a good pitcher (with amazing untapped potential), but he's also one hell of a hitter, and one of the best RBI men around; pure clutch. In addition, he's one of the best fielders with whom I've ever played. If not pitching, put him at 1B or 3B and sooner or later you'll see him snag something you thought sure was a hit (that comes from his goalie reflexes, which are amazing.) It will sound like I'm going way overboard (if it doesn't sound that way already) but he's also one of the nicest guys to ever step foot on a softball field, and guaranteed will crack you up at some point. I guess that's enough. If I keep going, people will say we should get a room, but, seriously, whatever team gets him is blessed. |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/4/2010 2:10:15 PM
okay three ur pitcher and catcher i see but when u have third they say they go to different channel.
also if i pitch can u tell brown u have no game. he went 3 for 3 against me with 5hr ya i know 5 hr the last one he hit of me 3 weeks ago just landed in austin texas |
comish
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| posted 8/4/2010 2:09:55 PM
Token that's another great idea! Let's replay last night's games and then see if we can get MLB to replay the last 12 years of baseball.
The outcome last night wouldn't have changed a bit...the Junction played much better than Cranberry...pitching, hitting, and fielding. They improved over the year while Cranberry slid.
We will move to correct an immediate issue but know that there needs to be a major change in the rules to get rid of those composite/illegal/juicied bats once and for all. By having other teams use your bats were are hoping that those illegal/expensive bats stay home.
PLAY BALL! |
dconti
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| posted 8/4/2010 1:42:55 PM
you can sit on our bench if you want, but otherwise the headsets are really expensive and our sponsor only gives me enough money to buy 3 a year ... so you are SOL :) |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/4/2010 1:40:13 PM
totally understand but was wondering if i can get those nascar head sets so i can hear what u guys r teling each other |
dconti
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| posted 8/4/2010 1:33:58 PM
jay just stop over during warm-ups, normally Al and our pitcher (be it dom or mike) for the evening get there fairly early. the only thing i would ask is not to come over right before game during final warm-ups, or during the game itself ... otherwise everyone is happy to help. we play monday at 8:15 and wedneday at 6:30 (probably be dom monday and mike wednesday ... Al will prolly be there both games). |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/4/2010 1:26:42 PM
Roast beef sandwich lol
i will do that sometime next week i will be at a playoff game or two
any help will be greatful
I come real cheap a powerade every game
and a roast beef sandwich with onion rings in games we win
and roast beef sandwich (big) curly fries and onion rings |
dconti
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| posted 8/4/2010 1:19:07 PM
also, venuti sees a pitching coach on the north shore (as does eric malerba) ... supposedly with a couple lessons you can really take some big strides (well, your strides are always big hahaha) |
dconti
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| posted 8/4/2010 1:04:04 PM
Jay -- if you are up at the park, dom/hoadley/Al are all more than happy to show you the grip / release points for the curve, rise, sinker, etc etc. I know Millsy is always happy to show the technique as well to pitch more open. either way, stop up before or during one of our games (or stingers) and someone can assist you in learning the various techniques you mentioned. |
dconti
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| posted 8/4/2010 12:42:51 PM
but matty i saw you with a big beer can ... and it seems like jay just needs roast beef sandwiches ... hahahahaha ... |
mattyfc
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| posted 8/4/2010 12:20:12 PM
Jay, Clarkes Club all day. mfclough@hotmail.com
Unfortunetly I dont have the means to pay you like Conti but your uncle/dad was at my game last week and said youd be a perfect fit. Let me know |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/4/2010 12:07:48 PM
Leon- I don't have anything like the A pitchers (Senna Pratt etc. etc.) I know i could help a good soild B team and with good D. Need to learn how to throw open a little bit pick up a few MPH and throw some kind of curve ball. But can't wait for next season.
Im pretty sure jack is going to stay with southie socks |
suldog
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| posted 8/4/2010 11:28:09 AM
Leon, Kevin - Just a slight correction. The guy Leon identifies as Jay Atton's father is actually his uncle. That would be Jack Atton, who threw a few games for the Southie Sox near the end of the season. |
souwanapitch
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| posted 8/4/2010 11:12:40 AM
Kevin I will take you up on that beer (Though our defense had a lot to do with it). Leon the rules for the playoffs were as Mark said most of us expected it again this year as well, I was just verifying! |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/4/2010 10:04:41 AM
Kevin - You may want to talk to Jay Atton from the Swingers. He sounds like he's available. In fact you might be able to get both him and his father. They both pitch. |
ksnow
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| posted 8/4/2010 9:57:21 AM
conti - thanks for the support! good luck to you guys as well. maybe we can sign a pitcher and move up with the big boys next year..
mills - we owe you man! a shutout...wow! if you see us at the field well have a beer (or 10) waiting for you..
-THE PLACE |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/4/2010 9:29:53 AM
Commish - A little late to implement a rule after the playoffs start. Are you going to allow last nights game to be replayed with the new rules? |
comish
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| posted 8/4/2010 9:13:49 AM
Wow, that was one interesting post there by Dunny.
FYI - the playoffs started last night.
As for the rule about which bats you can use in the playoffs. Well, the league hasn't changed their rules from the regular season - meaning any ASA approved bat can be used.
However, last year we were led to believe that Shennanigans was the ONLY team who were using illegal bats. Today, it sounds like there are several other teams using them so it's time we adopt last year's playoff rule. Which is:
Each team will be allowed to pick four of their own bats...those bats can/will be used by both teams. At the end of each inning, the umpire will take the bats (8 in total) and deliver them to the team at bat. Opposing teams/players nor the league will be held responsible for any bat that is broken during play.
|
dconti
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| posted 8/4/2010 9:08:29 AM
sully -- nice write up, you do a nice job with the blogging, and i have read all of your recommended reads. hope to see you up at the park throughout the playoffs, but if not, perhaps i will stop by and watch your sunday game ... unfortunately i am away almost every weekend in august with weddings ... ugh |
souwanapitch
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| posted 8/4/2010 8:31:34 AM
Commish - as the playoffs start tonight and after all the long posts and back and forths, what will be the rule on bats for the playoffs? |
suldog
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| posted 8/4/2010 8:07:21 AM
Quick version - good guys, fun season, came up short. Thanks to all who make this such a good league. I'll be around to enjoy the all-star stuff, and the playoffs. |
suldog
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| posted 8/4/2010 8:06:18 AM
Anyone who wants a wrap on the Swingers season - Leon? - could read about it at my blog. http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com/2010/08/hurry-sunday.html |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/4/2010 7:21:42 AM
Dunny - Actually I read it and although it was long as all hell you made some good points. I'm summarize for those who don't want to read the whole thing. Shut up and deal. Stop crying about everything that goes wrong and play ball. I think that says it all.
Jay - I think you would be a welcome addition to an A team that needs a second pitcher as well. Don't sell yourself short by going to B and looking to dominate there. A team like my own could have used a solid pitcher in addition to Joey as to not wear out his arm. |
cheeks159
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| posted 8/4/2010 6:16:01 AM
Conti will also give free bud light to anyone that can read that entire last post without falling asleep. Guys, let's keep it under 20,000 words please. |
17Dunny
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| posted 8/4/2010 12:34:58 AM
baaaaaaaahhhahahahahahah i couldnt remember my old forum username son i created new 1..........and look @ my member #!!!!!! hahashaahaaa God is 1 Funny ass dude |
17Dunny
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| posted 8/4/2010 12:19:48 AM
Alright my hand has finally been forced..........1st off i would like to apologize as a grown man to the junction and more importantly my teamates on Cran!! I got caught up in the heat of a 1 and done playoff game.I honestly think the junction outpitched out fielded and def out hit us tonight! And Even more importantly played with more heart and more determination than myself and my teamates did tonight.
O.K. now the interesting stuff!!! Mcniff is a good guy hes a gamer for sure but the reason for my blowup/and the fore mentioned apology is this........ bout a month ago we played Junction we pretty much fielded the same lineup as we had tonight, we won something like 15-4 now tonight mcniff pitched great they played sound and solid determined ball.........however how do u go from scoring 4 runs of johnny to having the bottom of your lineup guys hitting 300'ft screaming liners every AB?? Lifting weights?? lots of cardio?? eating healthy? Now the way junction played opposed to our performance, I feel we would have lost reguardless, however going from a mid season game and barely touching Johnny to righties hitting 4 absolute screamers down the 1st base line? Did I mention @ least 7-8 Screaming 300'+ liners 1 hopping the 316 mark? And bout 3 of them were literally of the fist.....now i play 3rd and whats done is done but chances are if someone gets plastered by a juiced liner its only gonna b 1 of 40 guys (i.e. the Ps and 3rd basemen) in league ......thats fine im sure 80% of us have gotten up either intentionally or unintentionally with a juiced bat @ some point or another and i "CHOOSE" to play 3rd as Ps "CHOOSE" to pitch but as mark and others have said prreviously i got 2 kids who i am responsible for and support when i get plastered it aint gonna b about softball or friends or misjudging ball i am def not afraid of the ball i play even with bag unless literally 3 guys in league are up and 1 of em is 1 of my best friends! but it becomes now personal because someones ego forced them to drop $600 on a bat and now i look like rocky dennis and im outta work for a month!! therefore it now becomes personal f@%k softball f@*K the league! Ive been in numerous altercations in this league due to @ least 1 of the following my mouth, someone elses mouth, my competitiveness, or just me being a grown man with a SPINE I know ive rambled but this a season worth of entries i am deficating for all eyes to see. If a pitcher purposely throws @ me im picking up ball and firing it back @ him an eye for an eye, if someone were too use a juiced bat and hit a 110 mph liner @ my skull when im 30 ft away now its personal and it aint bout "whew that was a close 1" or "thank God" or "ouch' its about u literally could have just killed me so u could get nominated for "The M street HR contest" yipppfu*ki#eeee Yeah, I said it,because now its on! What im supposed to jus get the plate in my cheek or eye socket when i did not have a realistic chance of protecting myself? Picture that my friends and foes!! its gonna happen sooner than later to some poor bastard fact!
Reason Im bringin this upp is because Mr. Anti-juice bat himself Mr. Mcniff whom i respect and get along with, pitches for the team that used the same bat as in every player every single @ BAT although there was an exception, their best player used a different bat, however thee other 9 used this bat for the whole game and they went from 4 runs of johnnyjust a few weeks ago,to a legit Dustin Pedroiaesque Laser Show again im not taking anything away from them they outplayed us and i think they coulda used a 47$ worth bat the way Cran played as a unit tonight....I just think if your against "altered bats" (which you will notice its mostly pitchers) You cant have it both ways and have your team using them!!! bottom line either shut your mouth and except the fact that they r here and relevant or oppose them for ALL teams including your OWN TEAM!! I had 4 different players from 4 different teams yhat were present concur with me or mention it to me w/o me bringing it up @ all that without a reasonable doubt there was something fishy with the choice of bat (yes thats as in single BAT) junction was using throughout the entire game! I personally could care less 1 way or other i know they r out there and there is way more than i/we know of there always has and will b a NEW way of fixing them so its all good i could care less but when u r 1 of the top 5 advocates for anti-juiced/shaved bats because you pitch and your @ greatest risk,yet your team has the right to disfigure the opposing pitcher/infielder because it helps YOUr team win that just aint right !
The last section of my annual blog is me dyyying laughing out loud right now about Conti!! Bro, 2-3 seasons ago me and you got into a very personal and heated exchange on this forum and once it got very very personal and serious your 1st response was too"Have your pitcher fire 1 off my back the next time shenanigans played sidewalk" and you can say you were joking or got got upp in the moment but you know as well as I do had I not pulled your card you would have had no prob @ least requesting that FAVOR from your pitcher and my response was as it is now if a pitcher purposely hits me in the head,foot, back whatever, actually he can even miss me and i will Fact because this is softball, for fun and thats it! I am as fiery,competive heart on sleeve type dude as u will find in league but enough is enough if a pitcher intends on hitting you or does hit you man the f@ck upp! dont complain bout it, if a 130 mph juiceball misses your skull by a foot man upp! because every 1 goes back and forth on eject him, throw him out, share bats, blah blah, blah because it seems like if people arent complaining bout bats,its the umps, or the schedule, or what division they are in, that dont sound like fun. gettin hit with a juiceball while pitching dont either! It Just seems to me that the very same people that are doing the most bitching are also just as Guilty of cheating, and antagonizing as the people they are "exposing" because @ the end of the day these bats are illegal, and purposely throwing @ some 1 is illegal but its a constant case of the pot calling nthe kettle black 90% of time so shut up and play ball, just dont point the finger, because chances are when you point the finger @ so and so.....your other 4 fingers are pointing to the 4 guys on your team who have threatened some 1 or used a fixed bat, or threw @ some 1!!! thats my thing i never get into bats this or what should b done about this altercation or this threat because ive seen 2 actual fights up there @ games in past 15 years just had to rant about those issues congrats to junction and mcniff and conti no hard feelings on my side i just shoot from the hip and thats what the forum is for. |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/3/2010 11:22:04 PM
Thanks everybody for a great season will come down for allstar game and pitch for the hr derby. Thank for the swingers for letting me play just missed playoffs good luck next season. with that said looking to play in the B league nothing needs to be set in stone right now talked to three teams right now.
good luck everybody the rest of the playoffs and have a great summer |
sbjmc
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| posted 8/3/2010 10:03:24 PM
Iwant to say that i am done with my negative comments,it is not my nature get caught up in bullshit sometimes. Cranberry good season and you guys showed that after we put down the gloves and bats that friendship always is more important. I am signing off for year and would like to thank junction for good year. |
joeyv33
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| posted 8/3/2010 7:56:18 PM
with a lemon not a lime lol |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/3/2010 7:20:19 PM
Joey - Raz and sprite? Umm is this the P Town league now? |
joeyv33
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| posted 8/3/2010 6:40:03 PM
conti where was my greygoose the last 4 yrs lol and murphys did me proud with the raz and sprite but think daniello worth the corona |
dconti
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| posted 8/3/2010 4:54:28 PM
hey with all this drama i forgot to congratulate The Place for winning the B Division last night. Congratulations guys !!! You guys definitely deserve it, and I think you have played well ... not only this year, but in years' past. Glad to see it coming together for you guys !!! good luck next week |
mattyfc
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| posted 8/3/2010 4:26:57 PM
The A division sounds dangerous. Anyone wanna pitch for Clarkes next year? Or just give me about 500 hours worth of lessons? Good luck in the playoffs. |
dconti
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| posted 8/3/2010 4:23:02 PM
i pay brownie in sam summers and danello in bud light. |
souwanapitch
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| posted 8/3/2010 3:59:19 PM
Thats simply a payoff to get the guys to play for him next year. We know Conti's methods - what he can't have he buys. Some day I am going to be able to afford a Dan Brown and Luis Colon |
sbjmc
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| posted 8/3/2010 3:58:15 PM
Mark,maybe you should think about playing and coaching rather than namecalling. Like when shannys was racking you and you did not pull yourself from game,if it was pratt you would have pulled him. So much for first. |
cheeks159
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| posted 8/3/2010 3:45:46 PM
Conti said he will pay $100 to every player on the team that can beat Shanny's in a series. Wow! |
dconti
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Registered: 9/3/2010 8:12:19 AM
| posted 8/3/2010 3:07:25 PM
i predict that pickup rips his jersey off and calls himself a fat f*ck by the middle of the first round. |
Pickup
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| posted 8/3/2010 2:44:50 PM
how bout we make this forum even a lil more intersting and start making some playoff predictions |
suldog
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Registered: 9/3/2010 7:52:25 AM
| posted 8/3/2010 2:12:55 PM
By the way, how are the home run contest participants chosen? I haven't hit one since 2004, so I figure I'm due for a whole bunch all at once. |
jayatton44
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Registered: 9/2/2010 2:16:57 AM
| posted 8/3/2010 1:54:39 PM
leo n can i get 2 plz |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/3/2010 1:54:26 PM
Although I really don't mean that. The drama provides me with quality office entertainment. |
Token_BM
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Registered: 9/2/2010 10:07:36 AM
| posted 8/3/2010 1:52:59 PM
Nothing but drama on here despite what should amount to a good game tonight between Cranberry and Junction. How about everybody have a "get over it" cookie and wash it down with a glass of "grow the eff up"? |
suldog
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| posted 8/3/2010 1:45:16 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmmm. Liberty Bell. Any chance we can get them to cater the All-Star festivities? Must be some kind of deal you can make, Mark... Tell 'em you'll call it "The King Beef On An Onion Roll Home Run Contest" or something. |
joeyv33
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| posted 8/3/2010 1:41:14 PM
This is comical good luck in the playoffs see u in the finals :) if we have more than 8 show up on our team lol have to get in this convo somehow |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/3/2010 10:57:31 AM
will be checking into state hospital at 745 tonight after liberty bell |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/3/2010 10:00:00 AM
And the gauntlet has been lain. |
al martin
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| posted 8/3/2010 8:44:10 AM
I just want to let everyone know that our commish who has called me a cheater , has let his team use loaded bats all year . I know for 100 percent what bats his team has used that are loaded . I guess the safety of the of the other players in the league is not a concern when you play Mark . I will put up the money to test that bats I speak of . I know said bats are done ! Please tell us how you are looking out for other players when your guys are going to plate with loaded bats . |
souwanapitch
Member #367
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Registered: 9/5/2010 6:30:22 PM
| posted 8/3/2010 8:35:49 AM
Getting there Leon. With the knee getting better there is now a little difference in speed between the fastball and my change up -I can now throw the fast at 25 MPH and the change at 24 MPH whew!!!! Actually we almost had the whole team there so the defense was a lot better, we still have to start hitting. The Bulldogs were actually a strong defensive team and looked like they had a lot of baseball players so given another year I think they may be ready for the Lucas Division. |
suldog
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| posted 8/3/2010 8:11:05 AM
Token - Ask us again after tonight. |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/3/2010 8:01:17 AM
Mills - You pitched a shut out? |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/3/2010 7:27:13 AM
Jay and Sul - WTH are you doing? |
souwanapitch
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| posted 8/2/2010 8:55:48 PM
Okay "Place" whoever you are the Stingers stung one for you - just so you can play yourself into a division chance. I just hope to gosh I haven't blown my arm out for you -- naa that ain't going to happen I pitch better tired ayways. Good luck to all! |
al martin
Member #50
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| posted 8/2/2010 4:22:07 PM
Mark I have 1 question is your team not using a loaded bat this year . I know the answer already so please use the truth . |
comish
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| posted 8/2/2010 3:54:40 PM
I see that Conti has McNiff fooled too...that's Ok, most of us know what he's really all about.
Did I really "chase a player down with a bat?" That's simple lawyer speak...nice twist on words and actual events - clown!
As for throwing at batters on purpose...hmmm. Are you saying that every time a batter is hit by a pitched ball it's on purpose? If that's the case, then why haven't we moved to suspend the top violators of this offense? It certainly isn't me...I think I may have hit one or two..oh wait, I'll look it up right now. Magee 6, Venuti 6, Senna 4, McStiff 3...
I'm not concerned how a player feels when I'm on the mound. I'm doing my best to get outs so if he's uneasy in the box then that works in my favor.
"instructing your catcher to duck out of the way of a ball so the umpire gets hit by a pitch"...hearsay my friend.
"telling the umpire to see how many playoff games he gets" - yes, the one time the player I am crossed over to the commissioner roll I play. An admitted mistake that has since been resolved.
As for calling out players by name on this forum...my name is used in EVERY occasion/posting so it's about time I do the same. Too bad if you don't like it....don't read it!
As for my credibility on this issue, that's up for debate.
In closing, I don't have a problem with a single guy on either Playwright team or any other of the 19 teams in the league. No matter whom we play in the playoffs it will be a clean and well played series with no BS. Can't say the same for your crew. YOU - Dave Conti, made the decision to ignore the poor sportsmanship that a one of your players exhibit (spiking players, using doctored bats, throwing bats). I won't stand for it and will continue to protect myself, my players, and the other league members if the situation presents itself again.
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sbjmc
Member #810
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Registered: 8/23/2010 10:52:15 AM
| posted 8/2/2010 3:07:11 PM
Conti,you could not have told the truth better in front of a jury. I need not say anymore. Good luck in playoffs to all and that includes you mark. |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/2/2010 12:59:59 PM
Mark, narrow minded? Ok look, I didn't name call so save that. I simply pointed out my perspective on the issue. If you can't handle your actions being the topic on the board then maybe it's time to shut the forum down. However dismissing someone's assessment only gives it more merit. The fact is by pointing out it's personal, you basically proved my revenge point. I haven't had much of an opinion on that and I still don't. My only issue is to call it what it is. Don't get on a self righteous soap box like your performing this great public service. If you view Al as that much of a league hazard then don't let him in the league. You're the commish aren't you? I will say this, does Al have an altered bat? I'm sure he does. However I would also argue that there are other people in the league who have as many as he does. Are you going to put together a list of everybody you think has one and go after them? If the authority figure says the bat was thrown intentionally then your issue should be with that person for not tossing him. Otherwise you should have both been thrown out. The instigator and retaliation.
I can easily say that I wouldn't throw at any umpire who didn't threaten me physically. Then I still wouldn't have thrown at him, the threat would have just been confronted.
Lastly, I don't think I said to take him behind the backstop and fight him. I said confront him man to man. That's your interpretation of what man to man confrontation implies. Although that could be one interpretation, another person may have taken it to mean that you approach him on the issue, in a one on one environment, rather than in the middle of a heated game, hostile environment where nobody would have a clear head. Can I say I would have done that? I have no idea, since I wasn't in the situation itself. However I can say that regardless, that does fall in the category of being a grown up and handling things the right way.
You can ask anybody, I have always said your intensity is something that makes you a great guy to play with but a terrible guy to play against. Sometimes you have to admit when you're wrong. I dismissed the rumors that you had thrown at Chuck intentionally until you somewhat confirmed them on the board. So if it is in fact true, then you were wrong on that one Mark. |
dconti
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| posted 8/2/2010 12:56:09 PM
play the game within the rules ... you mean like chasing a player down with a bat ... you mean like throwing at batters on purpose ... you mean like instructing your catcher to duck out of the way of a ball so the umpire gets hit by a pitch ... or after getting thrown out of a game telling the umpire to "see how many playoff games he gets" as if to threaten him with a loss of money for doing what he felt needed to be done to handle an out of control player. get off your high horse mark ... you keep bringing up cheating and personal safety ... well, players are not safe when there are others who feel the need to take matters into their own hands, on the field or off ... players are not safe with the bats that your team uses anymore than the bats you accuse other teams of using (oh BTW i will simply point out that the bat in question is a tested LEGAL ASA bat ... has been all year, but i guess that doesn't matter to you) ... players are not safe when people feel that they are entitled to "right wrongdoings" during games, after games or at anytime EVER. regardless of whether you feel Al threw the bat at you on purpose (something every single person I have spoken to who was at the field that night but you and chuck dispute, and i note chuck only felt that way because of your history, not because of what he saw happen) that DOES NOT give you the right to chase a player down, start on field fights, throw at hitters on purpose ... throw at umpires ... it just doesn't man. i have been threatened (two years ago fall league finals), steve stalcup has been threatened (last year fall league finals) ... you mean to tell me you were righting wrong in each of those circumstances (like when you hit me on purpose in my right wrist, a wrist that later required surgery ... you mean to tell me you were thinking of my safety when that was the last time i was able to swing without pain until this year). YOU NEED TO STOP CALLING PLAYERS OUT BY NAME ON HERE AND ACCUSING THEM OF UNSUBSTANTIATED THINGS ... ITS SLANDEROUS, WRONG AND INAPPROPRIATE ... YOU HAVE LOST ALL CREDIBILITY WITH THIS ISSUE. PLEASE STOP, FOR YOUR SAKE AND FOR THIS LEAGUE'S ... BECAUSE AGAIN, AL MARTIN HAS NOT USED A BAT THAT IS NOT ASA CERTIFIED AND STAMPED AS SUCH ... AND TO SAY OTHERWISE IS AN OUTRIGHT UNTRUTH AND IS BEING USED TO DISTRACT THIS LEAGUE FROM THE TRUE ISSUE, WHICH IS YOUR CONTINUED UNSPORTSMANLIKE AND UNCALLED FOR ACTIONS TO PLAYERS AND UMPIRES IN THIS LEAGUE. |
comish
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| posted 8/2/2010 12:20:43 PM
In response to sbjmc and token
Al threw the bat on purpose...it was confirmed by the authority figure on the field that night.
Al and I don't like each other - that's a fact. It's personal and it goes a long way back. In the heat of the battle things happen very quickly. It's easy for both of you to sit back in your chair and give your narrow minded opinions based on what little information you can gather from afar.
I play the game within the rules and take a real issue against cheaters. Al is the biggest cheater in the game. For me, he is putting my safety at risk just by standing in the box with a loaded bat. So when he throws that bat at me I can't let that one slide without some kind of reaction. He didn't get hit by a thrown bat or ball but I think my message to him was pretty clear that night.
On the other hand, according to the much wiser Token, I should have handled much more like a man. That would be to take Al off the field and beat him up behind the backstop, right token?
Suspension? For what exactly? Arguing with an umpire? Handing a bat back to the player who threw it at me? I don't think so....but that's just me sharing my opinion.
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suldog
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| posted 8/2/2010 11:49:50 AM
Leon - If we win tonight, we're in. And that will be our final game of the regular season. If we lose, we have another shot, tomorrow night, versus Stadium (probably on N Street field.) |
souwanapitch
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Registered: 9/5/2010 6:30:22 PM
| posted 8/2/2010 11:44:55 AM
Hey Token you are correct I do worry about the arm getting tired. The guys are adamant they want to play though but as to pitching I have to see how much effort it will take to win. Good luck and for sure you got a friend! |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/2/2010 11:32:41 AM
Jay - Is tonight a "win or go home" game for you? |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/2/2010 9:43:01 AM
Leon- I hear what you are saying Stinger will have to play 3 games (that's if they can get past the mighty swingers(shit if the mighty swingers can make it to the playoffs))
not like the Place is not going to make the playoffs because you tank the team and don't like them. Tough choice but right choice for you is to play game get a friend or two to fill save your pitchers, and let the PLACE go back and say we should have won one more game, Not your fault |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/2/2010 9:30:14 AM
Mills, I see people are saying you have to play for the sake of the place. You have to do what's best for your team. You could very well end up playing 3 games in one week if you do that. Not only is it a matter of the toll it takes on your body, but I imagine people do have lives outside of softball. You do what's best for your team and maximizes your chances of winning.
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suldog
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| posted 8/2/2010 8:23:51 AM
Agree with Jay. Good ball coming up. Playoff implications in the games tonight, and then actual playoffs starting Wednesday. Let's put on our best show for those folks who might be watching the games. |
jayatton44
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| posted 8/2/2010 7:36:04 AM
Okay enough about that game season almost over AK and Swingers for last playoff spot< swingers can still get in tomorrow with win> some playoff matches everything looking good for a deep playoffs. Allstar game HR contest lets look at the good season the league is having not on one bad game. good luck everybody |
souwanapitch
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Registered: 9/5/2010 6:30:22 PM
| posted 8/2/2010 6:02:18 AM
Hey sorry for any confusion, Stingers will be playing Monday, the team doesnt believe in the easy way out so on with the game! Lastly to add a little to the Shennanigans & Sidewalk drama - there is no excuse for in your face antics the top teams are there because of the talent and drive of their players. When it moves to the point of win at all costs and the other team is the enemy then the smallest thing becomes exaggerated and always seems intentional. Al can be very aggressive his assets become an opposing teams pain, the same with other guys on other teams. I like the way though that after a game we can all shake hands and in some cases come bacj to reality. We have had some competitive games but have never moved to the point of hating the other team - thats a managers job to make sure that doesnt happen. So Token is correct the measure of a man is not how he threatens you with a bat but how he uses it on the field. Bad actions can be dealt with expulsion or game suspensions and never blame an ump, I have seen umps in leagues get beat up after games and I was glad when whole teams were thrown out of the leagues for such things no one comes to play a game to be threatened. Next we will be taking out restraining orders fro each game and having cops at every game - all because managers want to win at all costs and everyone else is at fault, thats screwed up! |
sbjmc
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Registered: 8/23/2010 10:52:15 AM
| posted 8/1/2010 4:10:02 PM
Also, one common denominater when these actions take place.??????????????????????? |
sbjmc
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| posted 8/1/2010 4:02:49 PM
Iagree with Bm I dont Al threw bat at you purposely they were winning game and if you have not noticed you jump up on plate during pitches. As far as Chuck I think he has given you benefit of doubt more than offen. Know I beleive you should been suspended for actions agaist Martin as well as actions against Chuck after getting thrown out. But thats just my view, you are the COMMISH........ |
Token_BM
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| posted 8/1/2010 8:07:49 AM
Umm, I have to disagree with you here Mark. Righting wrongs? What are you Jesus now? Under no circumstances is someone to take anything out on an umpire. If there's a personal issue then I say handle it off of the field man to man if it's that serious. Otherwise it's a matter of respecting an authority figure.
As for the bat issue, I can see both sides of it but as far as "righting wrongs" that's not what it is. Call it what it is Mark. It's exacting revenge. If you call it anything else, you're just lying to yourself because nobody else believes that shit. |
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